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Sean Szeps to Maggie Dent: Post Natal depression tests are letting dads down

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Sean Szeps to Maggie Dent: 

Post Natal depression tests are letting dads down


There are 5.4 million dads* in Australia and in LiSTNR’s new original podcast series, The Good Enough Dad, famed parenting educator and author, Maggie Dent talks to some of them about their wins, challenges and stuff-ups, proving along the way that being “good enough” is exactly what our kids need. In this week’s episode of THE GOOD ENOUGH DAD, she chats with author, podcaster and social commentator Sean Szeps.


The path to fatherhood was not straight forward for Sean and his husband Josh, but it was something they both wanted, badly.

After their twins were born through surrogacy the journey really began.

With no traditional roles to fall into, the two dads had to find their own way through the fathering process.

Sean chats to Maggie about how they found what worked for them, and why his biggest parenting fail involved some cough medicine on a long-haul flight.

Sean Szeps is the author of Not Like Other Dads.



12’02 – Josh and Sean had to reinvent the parenting script 

20’37 – Post Natal depression tests are letting dads down 

26’58 – why people need to stop making assumptions about families 

39’57 – Sean gave his kids drugs and he regrets it 



35’11 – All girls need is a loving and connected dad


Listen here: The Good Enough Dad - LiSTNR Podcasts




“Aiming to be a GOOD dad is important, but you know what, research actually shows that being a good ENOUGH parent is how you ace it,” said Maggie Dent. Known around Australia as the “Queen of Common Sense”, Dent shares her characteristic humour and simple strategies with dads from all walks of life.

Maggie Dent is a trusted voice – her podcast Parental As Anything has won gold at the Australian Podcast Awards, she regularly travels around Australia presenting to parents on resilience, anxiety and raising boys to men, she’s the author of nine books, the mother of four sons and grandma to seven grandkids.

Dent said: “I’ve wanted to do something for dads for a long time. I’ve watched my own sons become fathers, and there is just so little out there for dads. Seeing dads on telly and in ads being the bumbling fool - apart from in Bluey of course! - is frustrating. Dads are doing a great job…it’s time to celebrate our dads!”  

And celebrate dads is what The Good Enough Dad certainly does.


Throughout the 26-episode season, Dent chats with good mate and Triple M Sydney host Gus Worland about the man who shaped the father he is today, former NRL star Ben Hannant about how he parents eight kids, and the hilarious How to Dad NZ Instagram star Jordan Watson on how running from half-crazed sheep in the wilds of New Zealand helped him be the dad he is today. Musician John Butler, singer, actor and TV presenter David Campbell, acclaimed performer Stephen Page, footy legend Brad Kearns, father of twins and podcaster Sean Szeps, comedian and presenter Matt Okine, and TV presenter Tristan MacManus also talk to Dent about their fatherhood journey.


“This podcast will have listeners laughing, nodding in agreement, reliving their own experiences and groaning in understanding,” said Dent. “Being a dad is not easy. I hope listeners want to high five themselves or hug their own dad for all the incredible things he’s doing and done in their lives.”


The Good Enough Dad is on LiSTNR.

Source: *Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) 2 September 2016


For more information, please contact: Kath Rose on 0416 291 493 or email


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